Saturday, June 26, 2010

Questions about Arizona's Illegal Immigration Issues


I don't really know if I have that many readers of this blog but I have decided to add a new poll feature. I hope to add a new poll each week or so and will post the results.

With the new Arizona immigration laws currently in the local and national news I'd like to ask your opinions about illegal immigration and how it is perceived by you.

First blog poll question: Do you feel that illegal immigration lessens your chances of employment?

Please click on my poll but also feel free to elaborate by leaving a comment.

Thanks and have a great day!

6 comments:

telemoonfa said...

I read your blog and I really like it. I've lived in San Tan Valley for a year. (I got a cheap foreclosed home near Ironwood and Ocotillo. But it’s a nice home.) I like seeing the pictures you've taken and reading about how Queen Creek/San Tan Valley has grown over the past few years.

Your question, "Do you feel that illegal immigration lessens your chances of employment," is a good one. I’ve talked about illegal immigration a lot before, and I’ve heard politicians talking about it a lot, but I’ve never been asked that question quite like that before.

My answer is yes, illegal immigration does lessen my chances for employment, because illegal immigration makes the economy worse, and when the economy is bad, fewer people want to start businesses or grow businesses or hire people. As politically incorrect as this may be, the truth is that illegal immigrants are a drain on social services, including hospitals, welfare, jails and schools.

But I don’t buy the simplistic argument that illegal immigrants are taking all our jobs. That argument presupposes that like there are a limited amount of jobs available, and once they’ve all been taken, there aren’t any more. (Though I know it may seem that way when you’re one of 50 people going for the same job opening)

I believe that prosperity is not a zero sum game. (I had to look up “zero sum game," and this is the definition: "a situation or interaction in which one participant's gains result only from another's equivalent losses.") So I do not believe that because I got a job recently, I took that job away from somebody else. There are plenty of jobs out there! Ronald Reagan said "We have so many people who can't see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion that the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one!" Reagan’s point is that every one can be fat! And my point is that every one can get a job! Not everyone can have their dream job, and there may be periods of unemployment, but generally speaking, all able-bodied and sound-minded people in America can find employment if they just try hard enough and have faith.

So, I believe that the amount of available jobs should grow as a population grows.

So in theory, more jobs should be created as more people move to Arizona, either by birth or by migration. The people just have to educate themselves, start up businesses, and work hard. But the reality is that a lot of illegal immigrants in Arizona don’t have a ton of schooling or speak English. And since they often work under the table and are scared of talking to police officers, they kind of live on the margins of society… what I’m trying to say is, I don’t think that an illegal immigrant is as likely to build a businesses and create jobs as someone who was born and raised in Arizona and speaks English and has a college degree.

But I also want to add that I have great respect for the Hispanic people, and I when I don’t get a job I’m looking for, I don’t think, “it’s those dang illegal immigrants!” These days when I don’t get a job I think, “It’s those danged dang politicians in the Obama administration!”

Or maybe I think, when I don't get a job, "It's my own lack of skills and preparation!"

OK, I have to go to bed.

P.S. I support Sheriff Joe and Russell Pearce and Jeff Smith and JD Hayworth.

telemoonfa said...

I read your blog and I really like it. I've lived in San Tan Valley for a year. (I got a cheap foreclosed home near Ironwood and Ocotillo. But it’s a nice home.) I like seeing the pictures you've taken and reading about how Queen Creek/San Tan Valley has grown over the past few years.

Your question, "Do you feel that illegal immigration lessens your chances of employment," is a good one. I’ve talked about illegal immigration a lot before, and I’ve heard politicians talking about it a lot, but I’ve never been asked that question quite like that before.

My answer is yes, illegal immigration does lessen my chances for employment, because illegal immigration makes the economy worse, and when the economy is bad, fewer people want to start businesses or grow businesses or hire people. As politically incorrect as this may be, the truth is that illegal immigrants are a drain on social services, including hospitals, welfare, jails and schools.

But I don’t buy the simplistic argument that illegal immigrants are taking all our jobs. That argument presupposes that like there are a limited amount of jobs available, and once they’ve all been taken, there aren’t any more. (Though I know it may seem that way when you’re one of 50 people going for the same job opening)

I believe that prosperity is not a zero sum game. (I had to look up “zero sum game”, and this is the definition: "a situation or interaction in which one participant's gains result only from another's equivalent losses.") So I do not believe that because I got a job recently, I took that job away from somebody else. There are plenty of jobs out there! Ronald Reagan said "We have so many people who can't see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion that the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one!" Reagan’s point is that every one can be fat! And my point is that every one can get a job! Not everyone can have their dream job, and there may be periods of unemployment, but generally speaking, all able-bodied and sound-minded people in America can find employment if they just try hard enough and have faith.

So, I believe that the amount of available jobs should grow as a population grows.

So in theory, more jobs should be created as more people move to Arizona, either by birth or by migration. The people just have to educate themselves, start up businesses, and work hard. But the reality is that a lot of illegal immigrants in Arizona don’t have a ton of schooling or speak English. And since they often work under the table and are scared of talking to police officers, they kind of live on the margins of society… what I’m trying to say is, I don’t think that an illegal immigrant is as likely to build a businesses and create jobs as someone who was born and raised in Arizona and speaks English and has a college degree.

But I also want to add that I have great respect for the Hispanic people, and I when I don’t get a job I’m looking for, I don’t think, “it’s those illegal immigrants!” These days when I don’t get a job I think, “It’s those danged politicians in the Obama administration!” Or maybe I think, “It’s my own lack of skills and preparation.”

OK, I have to go to bed.

P.S. I support Sheriff Joe and Russell Pearce and Jeff Smith and JD Hayworth.

telemoonfa said...

I left a comment on it, which is copied and pasted here.

I read your blog and I really like it. I've lived in San Tan Valley for a year. (I got a cheap foreclosed home near Ironwood and Ocotillo. But it’s a nice home.) I like seeing the pictures you've taken and reading about how Queen Creek/San Tan Valley has grown over the past few years.

Your question, "Do you feel that illegal immigration lessens your chances of employment," is a good one. I’ve talked about illegal immigration a lot before, and I’ve heard politicians talking about it a lot, but I’ve never been asked that question quite like that before.

My answer is yes, illegal immigration does lessen my chances for employment, because illegal immigration makes the economy worse, and when the economy is bad, fewer people want to start businesses or grow businesses or hire people. As politically incorrect as this may be, the truth is that illegal immigrants are a drain on social services, including hospitals, welfare, jails and schools.

telemoonfa said...

read your blog and I really like it. I've lived in San Tan Valley for a year. (I got a cheap foreclosed home near Ironwood and Ocotillo. But it’s a nice home.) I like seeing the pictures you've taken and reading about how Queen Creek/San Tan Valley has grown over the past few years.

Your question, "Do you feel that illegal immigration lessens your chances of employment," is a good one. I’ve talked about illegal immigration a lot before, and I’ve heard politicians talking about it a lot, but I’ve never been asked that question quite like that before.

My answer is yes, illegal immigration does lessen my chances for employment, because illegal immigration makes the economy worse, and when the economy is bad, fewer people want to start businesses or grow businesses or hire people. As politically incorrect as this may be, the truth is that illegal immigrants are a drain on social services, including hospitals, welfare, jails and schools.

But I don’t buy the simplistic argument that illegal immigrants are taking all our jobs. That argument presupposes that like there are a limited amount of jobs available, and once they’ve all been taken, there aren’t any more. (Though I know it may seem that way when you’re one of 50 people going for the same job opening)

I believe that prosperity is not a zero sum game. (I had to look up “zero sum game”, and this is the definition: "a situation or interaction in which one participant's gains result only from another's equivalent losses.") So I do not believe that because I got a job recently, I took that job away from somebody else. There are plenty of jobs out there! Ronald Reagan said "We have so many people who can't see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion that the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one!" Reagan’s point is that every one can be fat! And my point is that every one can get a job! Not everyone can have their dream job, and there may be periods of unemployment, but generally speaking, all able-bodied and sound-minded people in America can find employment if they just try hard enough and have faith.

So, I believe that the amount of available jobs should grow as a population grows.

So in theory, more jobs should be created as more people move to Arizona, either by birth or by migration. The people just have to educate themselves, start up businesses, and work hard. But the reality is that a lot of illegal immigrants in Arizona don’t have a ton of schooling or speak English. And since they often work under the table and are scared of talking to police officers, they kind of live on the margins of society… what I’m trying to say is, I don’t think that an illegal immigrant is as likely to build a businesses and create jobs as someone who was born and raised in Arizona and speaks English and has a college degree.

But I also want to add that I have great respect for the Hispanic people, and I when I don’t get a job I’m looking for, I don’t think, “it’s those illegal immigrants!” These days when I don’t get a job I think, “It’s those danged politicians in the Obama administration!” Or maybe I think, “It’s my own lack of skills and preparation.”

OK, I have to go to bed.

P.S. I support Sheriff Joe and Russell Pearce and Jeff Smith and JD Hayworth.

telemoonfa said...

And here's my second and final installment:

I believe that prosperity is not a zero sum game. (I had to look up “zero sum game”, and this is the definition: "a situation or interaction in which one participant's gains result only from another's equivalent losses.") So I do not believe that because I got a job recently, I took that job away from somebody else. There are plenty of jobs out there! Ronald Reagan said "We have so many people who can't see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion that the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one!" Reagan’s point is that every one can be fat! And my point is that every one can get a job! Not everyone can have their dream job, and there may be periods of unemployment, but generally speaking, all able-bodied and sound-minded people in America can find employment if they just try hard enough and have faith.

So, I believe that the amount of available jobs should grow as a population grows.

So in theory, more jobs should be created as more people move to Arizona, either by birth or by migration. The people just have to educate themselves, start up businesses, and work hard. But the reality is that a lot of illegal immigrants in Arizona don’t have a ton of schooling or speak English. And since they often work under the table and are scared of talking to police officers, they kind of live on the margins of society… what I’m trying to say is, I don’t think that an illegal immigrant is as likely to build a businesses and create jobs as someone who was born and raised in Arizona and speaks English and has a college degree.

But I also want to add that I have great respect for the Hispanic people, and I when I don’t get a job I’m looking for, I don’t think, “it’s those illegal immigrants!” These days when I don’t get a job I think, “It’s those danged politicians in the Obama administration!” Or maybe I think, “It’s my own lack of skills and preparation.”

OK, I have to go to bed.

P.S. I support Sheriff Joe and Russell Pearce and Jeff Smith and JD Hayworth.

telemoonfa said...

Hey I'm trying to leave a comment on your blog but the computer's acting funny and maybe my comment is too long.

Please delete the last comment I made.

OK, now here's the first installment of my comment:

I read your blog and I really like it. I've lived in San Tan Valley for a year. (I got a cheap foreclosed home near Ironwood and Ocotillo. But it’s a nice home.) I like seeing the pictures you've taken and reading about how Queen Creek/San Tan Valley has grown over the past few years.

Your question, "Do you feel that illegal immigration lessens your chances of employment," is a good one. I’ve talked about illegal immigration a lot before, and I’ve heard politicians talking about it a lot, but I’ve never been asked that question quite like that before.

My answer is yes, illegal immigration does lessen my chances for employment, because illegal immigration makes the economy worse, and when the economy is bad, fewer people want to start businesses or grow businesses or hire people. As politically incorrect as this may be, the truth is that illegal immigrants are a drain on social services, including hospitals, welfare, jails and schools.

But I don’t buy the simplistic argument that illegal immigrants are taking all our jobs. That argument presupposes that like there are a limited amount of jobs available, and once they’ve all been taken, there aren’t any more. (Though I know it may seem that way when you’re one of 50 people going for the same job opening)